I know some "proud members" of the Eastern Star, who are widows of Freemasons and I can tell you the HATE JWs with a passion.That is not the first time I've heard that Freemasons hate JW's. Why is that?
El Kabong
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Freemasons
by UnDisfellowshipped ini am posting this thread because i've seen some people ask "who are the freemasons?
back a few years ago, i had never heard of the masons before.. then, i had some masons involved in my life, so i did a lot of research into them (at the library, on the internet, in books, testimony by former masons, etc.)..
i will start a thread soon and post my beliefs and opinions on freemasonry.. here are a few things i have found in my research.. in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, masons are allowed to believe in any god they want to, except jesus christ.. in fact, in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, the name jesus christ should not even be mentioned.. that makes one wonder, doesn't it?.
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JW's Should Start Their Own Country!
by nonjwalltheway injehovas' witnesses are an interesting group.
they enjoy the freedoms and liberties that they receive by living in the united states, but at the same time they refuse to partake in voting, national celebrations and have basically created their own nation within a nation.
i find it hypocritical for them to act in this manner and believe that they should gather from around the world and all go and live together on some island.
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El Kabong
I'm asking you and begging you to just give it a chance. What's the worst that can happen if you end up loving God for the right reasons?
Why do you "assume" that just because the good people here are not JW's they don't worship or believe in God?
Bella. You're young, aren't you.
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What really irritates you?
by SpannerintheWorks inthe following is what really irritates me:.
i'm just about to tuck into a $100 meal when some ignorant b*****d lights up.
when nobody lets me out of the side road onto the freeway.
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1. Know it all's. I can't stand people who just have to tell you just how much they know.
2. Gum chewers you can hear a mile away and who constantly "crack" their gum.
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JW Elder convicted of defrauding church members
by Rado Vleugel ina jw elder was convicted of defrauding elderly and financially unsophisticated congregation members and others out of millions of dollars!.
read the whole story on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org.
rado vleugel.
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Matty: Great minds think alike.
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JW Elder convicted of defrauding church members
by Rado Vleugel ina jw elder was convicted of defrauding elderly and financially unsophisticated congregation members and others out of millions of dollars!.
read the whole story on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org.
rado vleugel.
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JW Elder convicted of defrauding church members
by Rado Vleugel ina jw elder was convicted of defrauding elderly and financially unsophisticated congregation members and others out of millions of dollars!.
read the whole story on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org.
rado vleugel.
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El Kabong
Wednesday: Look on the right hand side of the page. You will see a small pic of a guy behind bars. Click on that and you will be able to read the story.
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Crap,,,,,,, now I think I am addicted to cigs...
by LyinEyes ini have been smoking off and on for over a year,,,,,,,never smoked before this year in my life.. it all started just for the hell of it.
then as my hub and i started going out dancing and hitting the town, cig smoke was everywhere.
i would comehome with it in my hair and all over my clothes.
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El Kabong
I got this from the newsgroup alt.support.stop-smoking (AS3), As I stated in an earlier post, this newsgroup helped me during the first couple of months after my quit.
JUNKIE THINKING: "One Puff won't hurt"
RESPONSE: "One puff will always hurt me, and it always will because I'm
not a social smoker. One puff and I'll be smoking compulsively again."
JUNKIE THINKING: "I only want one."
RESPONSE: "I have never wanted only one. In fact, I want 20-30 a day,
everyday. I want them all."
JUNKIE THINKING: "I'll just be a social smoker."
RESPONSE: "I'm a chronic, compulsive smoker, and once I smoke one, I'll
quickly be thinking about the next one. Social smokers can take it or
leave it. That's not me!"
JUNKIE THINKING: "I'm doing so well, one won't hurt me now."
RESPONSE: "The only reason I'm doing so well is because I haven't taken
the first one. Yet once I do, I won't be doing well anymore. I'll be
smoking again."
JUNKIE THINKING: "I'll just stop again."
RESPONSE: "Sounds easy, but who am I trying to kid? Look how long it
took me to stop this time. And once I start, how long will it take
before I get sick enough to face withdrawal again? In fact, when I'm
back in the grip of compulsion, what guarantee do I have that I'll ever
be able to stop again?"
JUNKIE THINKING: "If I slip, I'll keep trying."
RESPONSE: "If I think I can get away with one little "slip" now I'll
think I can get away with another little "slip" later on. And the
slipping will get stronger and the trying will get weaker"
JUNKIE THINKING: "I need one to get me through this withdrawal."
RESPONSE: "Smoking will not get me through the discomfort of not
smoking. It will only get me back to smoking. One puff stops the process
of withdrawal and I'll have to go through it all over again."
JUNKIE THINKING: "I miss smoking right now."
RESPONSE: "Of course I miss something I've been doing every day for most
of my life. But do I miss the chest pains right now? Do I miss the
worry, the embarrassment? I'l rather be an ex-smoker with an occasional
desire to smoke, than a smoker with a constant desire to stop doing
it."
JUNKIE THINKING: "I really need to smoke now, I'm so upset (or
depressed, or whatever)."
RESPONSE: "Smoking is not going to fix anything. I'll still be upset or
depressed or whatever, I'll just be an upset/depressed smoker. I never
have to have a cigarette. Smoking is not a need, it's a want. Once the
crisis is over, I'll be relieved and grateful I'm still not smoking."
JUNKIE THINKING: "I'm Bored"
RESPONSE: Smoking is an "activity" or "something to do" only for
smokers. I'm really not "doing" anything when I smoke except still
sitting/standing there. The rest of the world survives occasional
boredom quite well without inhaling life-challenging chemicals.
JUNKIE THINKING: "But they've been smoking on TV and in the movies for
years! There are even magazines devoted to tobacco products!
RESPONSE: "That's right. They were on TV for years, I wasn't. I'm still
alive; many of them aren't and they departed this vale of tears in
prolonged and painful ways. And the smiling faces in the magazines now
are risking painful and disfiguring surgery later, at which point they
won't be smiling at all."
JUNKIE THINKING: "It's so nice to go out for a 'breath of fresh air' and
a cigarette."
RESPONSE: "Fresh air? I've got to be kidding. And face it, sunny days
are one thing, but how many days do I huddle out in the rain with the
rain hitting the cigarette and turning the cigarette paper that
disgusting yellow color? How many times is it windy and it takes forever
to keep a match or lighter lit long enough to light the cigarette, and
then how often does a gust of wind come up and blow the ashes into my
eyes? And when it's icy outside, freezing my face off is bad enough, but
when it defrosts, there's this bizarre yellow condensation around my
nostrils. Now THAT'S attractive."
JUNKIE THINKING: "Smoking makes work go faster."
RESPONSE: "Most jobs where you work indoors are in companies which ban
smoking in the workplace. Some companies won't hire me if I smoke. And
everytime I stop for a smoke it actually prolongs my work, since I'm not
busy accomplishing it."
JUNKIE THINKING: "Let's face it. I am a smoker. I always will be."
RESPONSE: "The truth is that you're not a smoker. The only thing that
smokes is the cigarette. You are the sucker though for falling for the
belief that you cannot live without the habit of inhaling smoke. If
everyone who believed at one time they were forever doomed to smoke then
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Bill Bowen's unfortunate attack
by Jim Penton inlike carl olof jonsson, this is the first time i have ever written to this forum.
i have decided to do so, however, because i am saddened at what bill bowen has chosen to do in reference to ray franz.
let me say that i given bill full marks for publicizing an issue child abuse and the watchtower cover up of it and for taking a stand that has cost him a great deal personally.
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Mr. Penton:
I just want to take this opportunity to tell you how much I've enjoyed your book. Thank you for all your hard work.
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Crap,,,,,,, now I think I am addicted to cigs...
by LyinEyes ini have been smoking off and on for over a year,,,,,,,never smoked before this year in my life.. it all started just for the hell of it.
then as my hub and i started going out dancing and hitting the town, cig smoke was everywhere.
i would comehome with it in my hair and all over my clothes.
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El Kabong
Do you want to quit? That is the first question you have to ask yourself, and YOU MUST ANSWER HONESTLY. If you do, then that's half the battle. The other half is getting over the cravings.
I started out smoking after leaving the borg (in the borg 25+ years) and soon found myself a 1 1/2 to 2 pack a day smoker. Worse thing I've ever done. I've been smoke free for 2 years now. Here are my current stats which I am quite proud of.
Two years, six days, 10 hours, 57 minutes and 50 seconds. 23566 cigarettes not smoked, saving $4,124.16. Life saved: 11 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 50 minutes. (I got one of the cool meters available on the net. This one is called silkquit).
The biggest encouragement I got the first few weeks after my quit was on the newsgroup alt.support.stop-smoking.
It's a place much like this place where you can go for support, (not as many "Wars" though), rant if you are having a nic fit, ect. But, I cannot stress enough that YOU MUST WANT TO QUIT. No, "I think I want to quit", or "Maybe's". You can do it if you really want, BUT, you have to really want to. The first couple of weeks really suck, but it does get better. Also, drink lots of grapefruit juice. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy, but there's something in the grapefruit juice that gets rid of all the nicotine in the body.
Hang in there.
Edited by - El Kabong on 31 October 2002 16:9:43
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What to do to live and work in the US?
by fulano in.
i lived in ny for almost a year (yes at the headquarters.
edited by - fulano on 30 october 2002 5:4:28edited by - fulano on 30 october 2002 5:6:52.
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Fulano:
I hope you didn't take offense to my comments. I meant no offense